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People describing libertarianism as right-wing

edited 2011-07-09 14:58:32 in General
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This b ugs me because when I think right-wing I think Theocracy, Fascism, Social Conservatism. and the idea that people see us as that is kind of offensive just because we hold to a more free market (if not necessarily capitalist) economic structure. (The link between capitalism and free markets may be only implicit depending on how you define them). Most libertarians I can think of are actually quite anti-corporate Ron Paul spent a good deal of his criticism on Wall Street and The Fed for example. Anyway the notion makes me think that we are seen as socially authoritarian Christiofascists. (It's a word) and that people ignore that libertarianism is socially on the left. Any thoughts as to why it's considered specifically right? if anything it's two parts left and right.

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  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Different definitions of left and right wing would definitely be an issue with this maybe?
  • yeah its starting to confuse me how exactly are people defining left and right.
  • I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    The rough idea is right is conservative, left is liberal.
    However those terms have different meanings in different places too.
  • So how are libertarians any more conservative then they are liberal it seems the fiscal sphere and the social sphere would be equal parts.
  • Glaives are better.

    Damnit, Tnu, the farther RIGHT you get, the less central planning. Right-wing is associated with conservative values, but that doesn't mean that all right-wingers are conservative theocrats.

  • I take left vs right as a definition of class; the left want to lessen the influence of class or do away with class entirely (i.e, communism), while the right view class as a natural course of events that shouldn't be tampered with or they want to rigidly enforce it (i.e, fascism).

    If you take it like that, then it makes perfect sense that libertarians be considered rightist.

  • Well then why is anarchism considred an aspect of the left Hatter? Also my view on colass is that ideally it should be done away with but that's not going to happen any time soon and attempts to do so right now are kind of pointless. In the end it's a very natural thing and one of the things I hate about the concept of a society. If you look at things from an individualist standpoint and not a collectivist one people sem naturally egalitarian. The only way to properly eliminate class is through a mass change in social mindset (see anarcho-syndicalism).
  • Glaives are better.
    Alright, I see the problem here. I won't discuss this any further, then. Carry on.
  • Oh Hatter? Do go on. i'm curious wher eyou stand. I'm quite fond of some of your economic standpoints (except for the whole militarism thing)>
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