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Anti-cyberbullying legislation

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  • edited 2011-07-17 23:07:19
    Tableflipper
    person and property are incredibly important in a free society.

    I can't the only one who thinks this is weird. Well, the latter, at least.
  • edited 2011-07-17 23:11:39
    http://robotchicken.wikia.com/wiki/It%27s_The_Law,_Asshole!


    This comes to mind actually'

    Oh yes and this quote.

    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.-George Orwell.

  • Still haven't seen a link to the legislation. Also, the only ones prosecuted here will be cases of people actually an heroing, or flukes by overzealous prosecutors who will then become the target of mass ridicule.

    Besides, any troll worth his salt can work around this sort of thing if the concept ever becomes workable(proxies, hiding amongst a crowd of trolls, only trolling people in countries were they don't have these laws).

  • Likes cheesecake unironically.
    I knew who made this thread before I clicked on it.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    > I don't get why "Deal with it" isn't the default response to someone who complains about shit they can control. Why should we strip away our fundamental rights just because people can't stand the idea that someone out there doesn't like them?

    "Deal with it" ought to be the response that everyone should learn.

    However, your right to make me feel miserable ought to be complimented by my right to make you feel miserable.  If you have the ability to make me feel miserable while I don't have the ability to make you feel miserable, I oughta get a leg up on that.

    > Tnu's quotes

    Oh goodness, philosophy again.

    > To be fair, they deserve it.
    > Yeah. It's not my fault that not every guy is as alpha as I am.

    And alpha males can be jackasses who deserve some nice comeuppance sometimes.  What's so damn good about being an alpha male?

    > Harrassment isn't a right.
    > Free speech is.

    And there are limits to free speech; the most notable example of this is yelling fire in a crowded theater.  Along libel, slander, treasonous speech, and more.

    > I do, however, reserve the right to call someone a cunt online, just as I could if I said so in person.

    Just remember that they reserve the right to do the same to you, and deal with it.

    > ...what really? [getting free lunches is] something to mock?

    Apparently it is.

    > another quote, this time from George Orwell

    Quotes can be inspirational, but they are not a good basis for real-life policy.  In fact, they often talk about feelings and ideas...as opposed to legal specifics and realistic implementations of ideas.
  • Just some regular anti-bullying legislation would be great.

    Highschools are a fucking breeding ground for those little shitheads and administration doesn't do jack about it except blame victims.
  • Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    If you think high school is bad, SOME middle schools are worse.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    inb4 Lord of the Flies
  • edited 2011-07-18 10:26:52
    Likes cheesecake unironically.
    ^^^ It would be great if it had any effect. However, bullies are incredible morons by design and wouldn't stop even if they would prosecuted for it. It would be much better to loosen the law against killing people in such cases. If that would have been the case back then, when I was in school, there would be less worthless shitheads on the world now.

    Of course, this is just a silly little daydream of mine.
  • edited 2011-07-18 10:27:29
    Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    ^^Didn't read that till my senior year of high school. They didn't want to give us idea when we were younger.
  • Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    My english class read Lord of the Flies in sophomore year.

    Then they let us run around in the woods outside the school and beat each other with sticks.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    ^ Yeah, we did that t--wait, what?
  • Might just be wishful thinking, but I doubt they'll ever kill off trolling.

    Besides, no amount of trolling is ever as harmful as the preventative measures taken against it (and anything that could be mistaken for it).


    Anyway, as usual my stance is:  either we all get to be douchebags, or none of us do... and I'd rather the former.
    What we ACTUALLY have is that the majority are allowed to be douchebags, but only in pre-approved manners to pre-approved minorities. Being a douchebag in a non-approved manner or towards an unacceptable target, however mildly, instantly invokes both official punishment AND becoming a pre-approved minority.
  • edited 2011-07-18 12:17:08
    000
    Hatter, are you talking about "Cyberbully", the "I got made fun of online so now I have to kill myself but I couldn't take off the child safety cap on that bottle of pills so I couldn't but its alright because laws are being made to protect fragile people like me" TV movie?

    Because it's a serious, touching movie about digital drama and people like you are the reason it should be illegal to be mean online. It's not her fault that Facebook has no password recovery or privacy settings.

    V ABC Family. .
  • Mr. The Edge goes to Washington
    Sounds like a Lifetime movie.
  • I preferred the "Really, really softcore internet pornography turned me into a red-bull drinking sex fiend" Lifetime movie.
  • Meh...
    Online bullying is pretty much the worst reason for self-termination.
    But then there isn't really such a thing as a bad reason for self-termination, is there?

    Honestly, I have the utmost respect for those who can successfully and deliberately pull it off. Accidental success when they didn't intend it doesn't count, obviously.

    But still... online bullying.... hmmm.... well, folks shouldn't let it bother them. And neither should folks be deliberately picking on those who can't fight back... That ain't cool either.
  • Creature - Florida Dragon Turtle Human
    Here's my beef with the cycle of bullying:

    Say, you have high school seniors mocking the freshmen, because they're somehow declared implicitly to be of lower social rank.

    Should the freshmen put up with it and simply wait until they become seniors, and thus get to mock another group of freshmen?  And those freshmen put up and wait similarly for their turn to mock yet another set of froshlings?

    Or should the freshmen get together and figure out a way to ridicule the seniors that are currently mocking them?

    I much prefer the second option.  Settles scores immediately and doesn't let them propagate stupidly.  Also encourages creativity and problem-solving.
  • Glaives are better.
    Here's an option: unless you're being physically harassed, put up with it until you're a senior. Then, don't bully people lower than you. That's what I did, and the lower classes adored me.
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