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Adaptations and Remakes

ViviVivi
edited 2011-09-07 17:02:24 in Media
$80+ per session
A long time ago, when I first decided that filmmaking was what I wanted to do, I had some notion of all the different adaptions and remakes I wanted to make, silly me.

I also used to think that the directors who write and make these movies were...not as "high class" or "good" as the directors who do original things.

I don't know why. It just bugs me.

Comments

  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Adaptions

    this bugs me
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    adaptations?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    yeah, but the typo bugs me

    you needed to know that. 
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Sorry. Wow, I've been making that mistake for a while and no one told me.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    You are now a better person.

    Anyway, I was enough of a jackass to think I could remake Citizen Kane way back when. 
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    The Dark Knight is an academy award winning adaptation of a funny book.

    The Expendables is not an adaptation but is still a more creatively bankrupt and cynical cash-in.

    There's your answer.
  • ViviVivi
    edited 2011-09-07 17:06:04
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    Hahaha, that's kind of funny.

    Coming soon: Schindler's List 2013.

    ^Yay.
  • MalkavianMalkavian
    MORONS! I'VE GOT MORONS ON MY PAYROLL!
    ^^^There's a story of a new director who went to for his pitch and it was a remake of North By Northwest.

    The story goes he was laughed out of the room right after finishing the sentence.

    I really hope it's true. it would give me more faith in Hollywood.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    ^ :)
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    I don't like a great number of remakes.

    Except The Invasion (remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers). That was an awesome movie. I actually watched it thrice and loved it every time.

    We are in kind of Remake Hell right now though, and I really wish it would end.
  • captainbrasscaptainbrass
    The rule seems to be that you can remake genre films, even popular and well-regarded ones, but not films that somone has decided are True Art. That covers practically all of Hitchcock.
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Didn't stop someone from remaking Psycho though.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Gus Van Sant had INDIE credit, though.

    Also, the 90s
  • captainbrasscaptainbrass
    Gus van Sant, I think. And he got heavily criticised for it, but then he too makes films that are True Art, so for some that was acceptable. 
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Also, his remake was deliberately shot-for-shot, except darker. Like "Making subtext text" darker. 
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Personally if I were gonna remake a movie like Psycho, the thing I'd do is make it closer to the book.

    Of course, what "closer to the book" means is a matter of debate (as I've learned through constant Bakshi LOTR vs. Jackson LOTR arguments... you can show that most scenes in Bakshi's film and even much of the dialogue come from and play out exactly like in the book, but they'll insist that Jackson was more accurate).
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Sometimes accuracy is not just a matter of doing the things that happen on the text, but a matter of giving them the proper feel they deserve. 

    That's how I see it, at least.
  • captainbrasscaptainbrass
    The problem with the Bakshi version is more the dodgy animation and, well, the fact that it's incomplete than the accuracy.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Question.

    So, a director wants to direct a remake or adaptation to some property.How does he go about doing that, besides being asked to be the director?

    Does he go through the process of writing a script and pitching it?
  • TheConductorTheConductor
    Depending on the franchise, you might not even need a script.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    True.

    But what about in the event that there is no official script, but you want to do it.

    I should look up how Bay went about Transformers.
  • MoeDantesMoeDantes
    no longer cuddly, but still Edmond
    Sometimes accuracy is not just a matter of doing the things that happen on the text, but a matter of giving them the proper feel they deserve.

    That's how I see it, at least.


    I actually agree that being true to the spirit is more important than being true to the text (Jurassic Park succeeds in that capacity). The thing is I think Bakshi's version (of LOTR) nailed both while Jackson's nailed neither.

    Don't get me wrong, what Jackson did was certainly an impressive feat. But it wasn't Lord of the Rings.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    So, a director wants to direct a remake or adaptation to some property.How does he go about doing that, besides being asked to be the director?
    Does he go through the process of writing a script and pitching it?

    You either pitch the idea to the producers, who get the rights, or the producers pitch the idea to you (Which is, actually, the most common one)
  • ViviVivi
    edited 2011-09-07 21:10:36
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    Right, I knew that was the most common one. Thanks though.

    Was Nolan asked to do Batman?
  • NyktosNyktos
    a little muffled
    I believe he was.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    In January 2003, Warner Bros. hired Memento director Christopher Nolan to direct an untitled Batman film
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Alright, thanks.

    Hmmm...I wonder what adaptations directors decided, they just wanted to do, and then did them.
  • NyktosNyktos
    a little muffled
    Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings comes to mind, except he was also one of the producers on it so I guess the situation is slightly different.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-09-07 21:19:36
    You can change. You can.
    Well, normally adaptations are decided upon by the right holders, not by the directors. Mostly because they hardly overlap.

    ^Jackson did pitch LotR, fwiw.
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