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The reputation that people get based on whether they are rich or poor.

Tnu1138Tnu1138
edited 2011-06-24 22:20:28 in General
Seriously. I'm getitng isck of the concept of "rich" being used as some sort of insult am I the only one bugged by this? I'm lower middle class and it still bugs me. As if rich means "evil, greedy, and undeserving of anything." and even thyen it happens to the poor "lazy, unimportant tools" Seriously this sort of thing has to stop. people work hard for what they make ok? Someone isn't bad or good because of these qualifiers. Nobody deserves to be treated unequally because of race, sex, religion, or economic class. So stop acting like the gorups who ahve been "privileged" deserve to  be treated unequally. I have objections to stelaing from people or harming them whether they are majority or minority there is no acceptable target.

Comments

  • BecNoirBecNoir
    Mexican fag
    I'm getiting isck of it too.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    get out. Now.
  • LouieWLouieW
    edited 2011-06-24 22:32:34
    Loser
    Tnu1138,
    Nobody deserves to be treated unequally because of race, sex, religion,
    or economic class. So stop acting like the groups who have been
    "privileged" deserve to be treated unequally. I have objections to stealing from people or harming them whether they are majority or
    minority there is no acceptable target.

    I agree. I think you could also flip this around a bit and say that just because someone is poor does not make him or her perfect or noble or whatever. Of course, that is not say that people who are poor and say vain or prideful things should be ignored. I believe that they deserve sympathy and support just like anyone else who is in a bad situation, regardless of his or her personality. Likewise, if someone has earned his or her wealth through hard work, spends it wisely, and does not try to show it off, I do not think that person deserves much criticism for being rich.

    That being said, I feel like it is fair to criticize one not using wealth wisely or not sharing any of one's wealth or other resources with others. I mean, I think there is only so much stuff that a person needs and I believe that voluntarily giving to others is virtuous behavior.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Yes it's fair to criticize him but not treat him differently under the law.  In my understanding the law is a much abused tool and it has too much potential to abuse.
  • BecNoirBecNoir
    Mexican fag
    I'm sorry, tnu. Couldn't resist.

    On that note, I agree too.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    Wait people are agreeing with me? What manner of conspectus is this?
  • BecNoirBecNoir
    edited 2011-06-24 22:36:50
    Mexican fag
    You got lucky.
  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    There are people who worked hard to be rich.

    There are people like Paris Hilton.

    There are people who are poor because they're lazy.

    There are people who are poor despite their best efforts.
  • BecNoirBecNoir
    Mexican fag
    ^ Exactly.
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    So can we stop assuming that everyone is the latter of the two? people rooting for the poor see every rich person as the bad sterotype and people rooting for the rich see every poor person as a bad sterotype.  but on the plus side for the poor the second one to me seems like it would only be temporary. I think everyone has potential to make it. Also what is with Paris Hilton that you're talking about? As far as I know she's just an Upper Class Twit. Nothing terribly bad.
  • LouieWLouieW
    edited 2011-06-24 22:59:42
    Loser
    Tnu1138,
    Also what is with Paris Hilton that you're talking about?

    I think the implication was that she did not earn her money through hard work, but I could be wrong about that.

    I agree that seeing people as either negative rich stereotypes or negative poor stereotypes is rather silly since it is not consistent with reality. I have seen some of that, but I am not sure how widespread that kind of talk really is.

    On a somewhat related note, classism bugs me because I think that its foundations are generalizations and it tends to form a barrier to actually interacting with other people effectively and peacefully. I can understand that classes may exist in society for historical reasons, but I do not think they should. I have not really seen much good come out of those groupings anyway and I think that it would be great if really wealthy people tended to live more modestly (i.e. the spending wisely I mentioned before).
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    still their money and if they don't spend how will it become someone elses money? people spending actual valued money is a good thing it creates a functioning dynamic system. Like I said in an other topic. No one gains from idle money. Not even those who have it. I forget who said it but the state has a talent for making paper worthless by printing on it.
  • CommandoDudeCommandoDude
    CRIMINAL SCUM!
    I might agree with you, if you weren't strawmanning that is. Since your stance seems to be that any criticism of the rich is nothing more then "Rich people are EBIL MONEY GRUBBERS"

    There's a difference between saying that "Rich people are evil" and "Rich people aught to pay their fair share"
  • Tnu1138Tnu1138
    edited 2011-06-25 00:02:52
    the whole situation reminds me of an episode of PB and J Otter where the Otters start a lemonade stand to make money.  To summerize I would charge the same ammount of money for a good or service for anyone. Rich or poor. I wouldn't charge them more or less based on the conditions because I find it to be unequal and unfair.
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