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The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

VorpyVorpy
edited 2011-08-26 22:44:49 in IJBM meta
☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
This is regarded as one of the greatest pieces of American Literature next to the preceding book "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer". When somebody is using a standard to measure good literature to, they bring up HF. When they want to explain why popular media they don't like is getting too much attention, they bring up the meager TAoHF. ED has done this, SA has done this, TVT has done this, we have done this.

I want you to explain to me why, without butthurt bullshit mind you, why Huckleberry Finn is as great as people says it is. I want  you to explain to me all of the good parts, and point out justifications for their existence. Also take note of how this little book should be treated with more respect than most of the series out there, and why it has earned this little reputation it has.

This piques my interest very much, because I doubt this book is as great as everyone says it is.
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  • DonZabuDonZabu
    Have you read it at all?
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Of course I did. It's a given, since in order to pass almost any elementary english class it was an almost-requirement to read it. I read it in 2nd grade.
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    I've never read it.
  • CounterclockCounterclock
    Belief
    lol does that mean you never passed the second grade then?

    XD
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/huckfinn/context.html
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    Yup. I'm actually 8 years old :3
  • VorpyVorpy
    edited 2011-08-26 22:57:25
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    No, I mean that there was nothing obviously wrong with it, from what I read. It was, on a scale from 1 to 10, straight 5s. There was nothing demeaning about it in any way, and everything wasn't draggy or sluggish or confusing, but it didn't excel in every department at all, and was a book I could probably read once and be done with.

    The history and controversy set it's pedestal very high, and it can be regarded as very good with it's lifetime, other than that though, if released at any other time I am pretty sure it would not have had the impact it had now.
  • DonZabuDonZabu
    I like The Great Gatsby better.
  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    Hukleberry Finn is a great book because Mark Twain is a classy motherfucker and it has the word "nigger" in it.
  • BobBob
    -watches as Gelzo gets ripped apart by randy gay ogres several thousand Black people-
  • CounterclockCounterclock
    Belief
    ~Brings popcorn~

    ~hands Bob some popcorn~
  • GelzoGelzo
    Pony Sleuth
    Is there something wrong with my saying the word "NIGGER"?
  • ViviVivi
    $80+ per session
    While I've never read Huckleberry Finn, the premise of To Kill a Mockingbird and Of Mice and Men interest me much more, and I've read both of those.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    So it's just a book that got lots of publicity in it's timeframe? that's it? South Park almost feels right about Huckleberry Finn being very overhyped.
  • NoimportaNoimporta
    Not sure if serious.
  • NovaNova
    If you must eat a phoenix, boil it, do not roast it. This only encourages their mischievous habits.
    I guess my link was ignored then.
  • Scrye2Scrye2
    Electric Boogaloo
    For one, Mark Twain is ridiculously good at capturing vernacular dialogue in his writing. It was also one of the first American books to portray a black man as an actual person that we're supposed to sympathize with, rather than a subhuman. The book itself has many examples of well-written wit, satire, as well as believable character growth. It reads like an American Odyssey, and many works have taken after a lot of what Huck Finn put forth from a literary perspective. That's not to say that a lot of people aren't putting on their "historically significant" goggles when they see Huck Finn. I can't for the life of me determine if the book would be praised or quickly forgotten if it were first published in this day and age, but that's mainly because the book itself is historically and culturally significant, and has affected the literary environment for over a century.

    If you need specifics, read an analysis of Huck Finn.
  • Codename_M308Codename_M308
    They call me Rate Miser, whatever I see... turns overrated in my eyes...
    Vorpy, I think you read the abridged version or something, as I don't think they'll want to introduce the word "nigger" to second graders.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    Thank you Scrye.
  • VorpyVorpy
    ☭Unstoppable Sex Goddess☭
    I can see why this book is very good, very good indeed.

    I just have a question.

    Why do people keep using it as a standard to compare anime or fanfiction against? It doesn't make one bit of fucking sense. Most people (around 40% of Americans I have met have read and remember the book anyway) know more about HuckFinn than they do about NGE/PrincessTutu/Nanoha, yet the internet people keep whining about how those animes are more popular and have more devotion to them than HuckFinn does.

    I can ask everyone I meet today which one they heard about most or first, HuckFinn or Nanoha, and I can safely say more people know about HuckFinn than Nanoha.

    Most animes MAY have 400,000+ articles/words for their articles than this book does, but this book has more history and popularity than those things could possibly get, and I don't see why they even try bringing that up as an argument.


  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    It's just a random example that is used the most because it's not as ridiculous as the bible and it's not as nerdy as Harry Potter.
  • IanExMachinaIanExMachina
    I am Dr. Ned who is totally not Dr. Zed in disguise.
    Have never read it.

    'Cos you know we have George Orwell and other writers.

    Although if it is anything like 'Of Mice and Men' then I think I will never read it unless I want to debate about it.
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    "Why do people keep using it as a standard to compare anime or fanfiction against? It doesn't make one bit of fucking sense. Most people (around 40% of Americans I have met have read and remember the book anyway) know more about HuckFinn than they do about NGE/PrincessTutu/Nanoha, yet the internet people keep whining about how those animes are more popular and have more devotion to them than HuckFinn does.

    I can ask everyone I meet today which one they heard about most or first, HuckFinn or Nanoha, and I can safely say more people know about HuckFinn than Nanoha.

    Most animes MAY have 400,000+ articles/words for their articles than this book does, but this book has more history and popularity than those things could possibly get, and I don't see why they even try bringing that up as an argument."

    Precisely. Huck Finn and Nanoha are on a different level, so there's little point in comparing them. Of course, if they think things like the latter are more deserving of analysis, then there's a problem (*cough*, *cough*, "Kodomo No Jikan is a deeply psychological and sociological work...")

  • ForzareForzare
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    Kodomo No Jikan is a deeply psychological and sociological work...

    Does anyone other than like one troper who won't be named actually think that?
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    edited 2011-08-27 20:56:00
    You can change. You can.
    It seems that way, going on by some other tropers. :p

    And the fandom of the thing. 
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    ^^ Well, he's been banned, so can't we name him?
  • RedEyedAbyssRedEyedAbyss
    I remember Myrmidon once linked to a LiveJournal entry mocking that kind of attitude, with several of the comments trying to defend that view.
  • ForzareForzare
    edited 2011-08-27 20:57:35
    Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.
    ^^ Actually it's because I can't remember if it was Raw Power or Signed or someone else entirely that said that.

    I thought most people just watched it for the creepy fanservice, and just had a few of that kind of fan.
  • MillerCrossMillerCross
    You can change. You can.
    Precisely. Huck Finn and Nanoha are on a different level, so there's little point in comparing them. Of course, if they think things like the latter are more deserving of analysis, then there's a problem (*cough*, *cough*, "Kodomo No Jikan is a deeply psychological and sociological work...")

    I disagree with the idea that Nanoha is less deserving of analysis. Although it's because I believe that all works deserve analysis and I think that all works should be studied.  Also, after so many Huck Finn analysis, is there anything sound that hasn't been said about the book? 

    I'm not saying that Finn is not an important work. But I feel that dismissing a show without having analysed it and studied it and saying that it isn't worth of analysis seems pretty lame. And regressive, too.
  • GLORIOUSLeaderGLORIOUSLeader
    When in Turkey, ROCK THE FUCK OUT
    Both of them were banned.

    And Myrm's Livejournal reminds me of this:


    ...do not read the comments for that one.
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